We had another great meeting on Thursday, October 1st, 6:30 PM with 14 in attendance. Clint led off with introductions, followed a demonstration of Puppy Linux 4.30. It has been quite a while since we looked at Puppy Linux and it appears that the Puppy has grown into a full matured Puppy (Do Puppy's ever mature into full grown?), even still only 100MB in size. Puppy 4.30 now comes with full network printing support with Cups 1.11 and Clint passed around some high quality printouts made from Puppy to a Networked HP PhotoSmart C6180 printer. Highlights of Puppy 4.30 included ease of installation to a variety of media including USB devices, ide/sata drives, and scsi drives, as well as ease of setup from the setup menu, and administration. Included lightweight apps include Abiword, Gnumeric, mtPaint, Email, SeaMonkey. Clint also demonstrated the Grub configuration utility including support for multiboot systems and the GParted utility for setting up a drive that might already have another operating system. Clint finished with comments about some minor challenges he had with installing to a hard drive, Ext3 failed for some reason, EXt2 worked fine other than he made some grub menu.lst changed to use standard vga on boot (no frame buffer) and noapic nolapic for disabling apic on his laptop. One test that he wants to make with Puppy is doing an install to 4 GB USB drive, preserved as a 4 GB drive. Puppy web links: Puppy website: http://www.puppylinux.org/ Download: http://puppylinux.org/main/index.php?file=Download Latest Release.htm and http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/puppy-4.3/ While Clint took a couple of minutes to change out the hard drive in his laptop, Gregg had some questions on using Wine and Qemu that he fielded to the group. Clint then demonstarted Lubuntu which uses LXDE (Lightweight X Desktop Environment, based on OpenBox) running on Ubuntu 9.04. Like Puppy, it uses applications like Abiword, Gnumeric, and the web browser Midori to provide a speed desktop for older computers on older hardware with minimal ram (128-256 MB). His impression was that LXDE on Ubuntu was faster than Xubuntu on the same hardware, a subjective judgement, but Puppy was even faster. The advantage to Lubuntu is that it is built on what is becoming the "standard" distribution, Ubuntu, and benefits from the frequent updates from Ubuntu as well as the vast repositories of program packages for Ubuntu that can be installed to Lubuntu. Puppy does not provide for updates, security or otherwise, possibily a negative, but given its target users, is probably not importantant. The Wikipage for Lubuntu can be found at http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Main_Page and a procedure for installing LXDE on Ubuntu at http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Ubuntu. Clint commented that he had tried a couple of approaches and found that doing a server install with no server services selected other than CUP's provides the foundatation for a minimal Ubuntu installation. His procedure was to install the Ubuntu Server, then using apt-get, install lxde, cups, and synaptic. Rebooting to the desktop, he then using Synaptic to install Abiword, Gnumeric, mtPaint, and Firefox 3.5. The meeting concluded with a discussion of the trip to the Utah Open Source Conference next week that Clint and Chad are making, along with the part that Boise Linux User Group is playing this year with a BoF session, and will be a participative member next year. Clint also commented on the status of the SLAMPP Simple Home Server. The latest build is SLAMPP Live CD/DVD 2.0.1 (Kalinda) and can be downloaded from the SLAMPP website at http://slampp.abangadek.com/info/. Our next meeting will November 5th. Agenda is currently open. Suggestions anyone?